Sunday, December 06, 2009
Games I attended in 2009:
Sept. 12th - Glassboro at Salem
Sept. 18th - Schalick at Glassboro
Sept. 13th - Delaware State at Delaware
Sept. 25th - Cumberland at Glassboro
Sept. 26th - Delsea at Gloucester Catholic (1st half only) and Salem at Penns Grove
Oct. 2nd - Haddon Heights at West Deptford - finally looking at the Colonial
Oct 3rd - Kingsway at Gloucester Catholic - I have now seen 4 of the 8 Royal Division teams against GC and will probably see them against Williamstown, but probably not see them against Highland, Cumberland and Deptford
Oct. 9th - Glassboro at Gloucester
Oct. 10th - Paulsboro at Audubon - another look at the Colonial
Oct. 16th - Woodstown at Glassboro
Oct. 23rd - Pennsville at Glassboro
Oct. 24th - Pemberton at Timber Creek
Oct. 30th - Gloucester Catholic at Williamstown
Oct. 31st - Glassboro at Penns Grove
Nov. 6th - Kingsway at Glassboro
Nov. 7th - Hofstra at Delaware
Nov. 13th - playoff quarterfinal: Palmyra at Glassboro
Nov. 14th - playoff quarterfinal: Schalick at Penns Grove
Nov. 20th - playoff semifinal:- Paulsboro at Glassboro
Nov. 21st - playoff semifinal: - Woodbury at Penns Grove
Nov. 26th - Glassboro at Deptford
Nov. 27th - Delsea at Williamstown
Nov. 28th - St. Joe's at Hammonton
Dec. 4th - Group 3 finals - Timber Creek at Hammonton
Dec. 5th - Group 1 Finals - Paulsboro at Woodbury
25 1/2 high school games and two Univ. of Delaware games -not my biggest year, but still a busy one.
Editorial:
Fans need to not be such wimps about the weather! The players do not get a choice of clothing. As a fan you can prepare and bring layers to put on or take off. Sad to see fans hanging out in the men's rooms to keep warm during the finals. Heck, I remember finals being played in much worse weather. Are we becoming a "soft" society? - YES!
Go out and buy some clothes in which you can watch games in a blizzard with a temp below zero! You want your team to be ready for the finals, so you be ready too! Can't complain about your team's performance if your performance as a fan was sub-par!
2009 South Jersey Overall Rankings - Final
My rules: No more than 6 from any one group or from all Non-Publics - the top 5 from each Group and one wildcard for 26 teams. Non-Publics get the wildcard this week again.
Thanks to everyone who answered the poll questions.
first the undefeated (oops - there are none!):
Next the one loss teams:
1. Cherokee (11-1) - Group 4 #1 - (power points = 166) - beat Williamstown and EHT
Williamstown lost to Cherokee by 9 and EHT lost by 14; Williamstown beat Delsea by 15 and Delsea broke the scoring record for South Jersey. Hammonton had some close games, but showed the ability to win the close ones!
2. Williamstown (10-1) - Group 4 #2 - (148)
3. Egg Harbor Twp. (11-1) - Group 4 #3 - (158)
4. Delsea (11-1) - Group 2 #1 - (160)
5. Hammonton (11-1) - Group 3 #1 - (142)
The top 5 matched the CP's rankings released 4 days later.
6. Paul VI (9-1) - Non-Public #1 - (156) - CP # 10
7. St. Augustine Prep (9-1) - Non-Public #2 - (156) - CP #6
8. Woodbury (11-1) - Group 1 #1 - (118) last of the one loss teams and last of the 11 win teams - CP #13
The two and three loss teams get scrambled
9. St. Joe's (9-2) - Non-Public #3 - (118) - Non-Public Group 2 champion! lost to Hammonton by 2 compared to TC's lsoing by 6 - CP # 15
That gives us all of the Group Champions
10. Timber Creek (8-3) - Group 3 #2 - (131) - CP #8
11. Seneca (8-3) - Group 3 #3 - (122) - played a very good 2nd half of season - behind TC due to on-the-field 1st game result - CP #11
12. Washington Twp. (8-2) - Group 4 #4 - (125) - CP #12
13. Paulsboro (10-2) - Group 1 #2 - (105) - beat WD by 8 and Haddonfield beat WD by 2 - CP #16
14. Haddonfield (10-2) - Group 2 #2 - (107) - CP #7
15. West Deptford (9-2) - Group 2 #3 - (129) - CP #17
2 four loss teams slip in!
16. Shawnee (6-4) - Group 4 #5 - (109) - CP #19
That gives us the top 2 from Group 1 plus the top 3 in Groups 2, 3 and Non-Public plus all 5 from Group 4
17. Pemberton (6-4) - Group 3 #4 - (111) - CP not ranked
18. Burlington Twp. (7-3) - Group 3 #5 - (123) - CP not ranked
That gives us all of the top 5 from Group 3
Possibly the best 19th, 20th and 21st teams in history! All down here due to results on the field and not based on talent which should have them higher.
19. Holy Spirit (8-2) - Non-Public #4 - (129) - CP #9
20. Penns Grove (8-2) - Group 1 #3 - (121) - CP #20
21. Glassboro (8-2) - Group 1 #4 - (135) - a top 10 team that ran out of steam and dropped down to here. In mid-season form could have beaten anyone from #5 down - CP #18
22. Gloucester Catholic (8-3) - Non-Public #5 - (112) - CP not ranked
23. Bishop Eustace (8-2) - wildcard pick - Non-Public - (113 ) - CP #14
24. Pennsville (7-2) - Group 1 #5 - (89) - CP not ranked
Group 2 is top heavy and 4 and 5 land here.
25. Bridgeton (6-3) - Group 2 #4 - (97) - CP not ranked
26. Cinnaminson (6-3) - Group 2 #5 - (105) - CP not ranked
The top teams according to power points (teams with 100 or more power points):
1. Cherokee - 166 -won their Group
2. Delsea - 160 -won their Group
3. EHT - 158
4. and 5. (tie) St. Augustine and Paul VI - 156
6. Williamstown - 148
7. Hammonton - 142 - won their group
8. Glassboro - 135
9. Timber Creek - 131
10. and 11. (tie) West Deptford and Bishop Eustace - 129
12. Washington Twp. - 125
13. Burlington Twp. - 123
14. Seneca - 122
15. Penns Grove - 121
16. and 17. (tie) St. Joe's and Woodbury - 118 - both won their Groups!
18. Holy Spirit - 113
19. Gloucester Catholic - 112
20. Pemberton - 111
21. Shawnee - 109
22. Haddonfield - 107
23. and 24. (tie) Cinnaminson and Paulsboro - 105
25. Eastern - 103
26. Mainland - 102
27. Moorestown - 100
Let me know of any typos please! I am half blind (should be a ref if I didn't have bad knees) and have fumble fingers when I type!
2009 Group 1 Rankings - Final
Top contenders to take the championship away from Glassboro = Woodbury, Paulsboro and Penns Grove
I am not listing the computer rankings as I think that their bogusness has been well proven. I may add at the end of the season.
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1. Woodbury (11-1) - holds top spot with 2 wins over #2 and one win over #3 - 3rd seed with 118
2. Paulsboro (9-2) - bigger win over #4 than PG had, but lost by more to #1, so I add up the scores 9using the most recent game against Woodbury and the game against Glassboro and come up with Paulsboro 35-14 and PG 30-31 - 4th seed with 105
3. Penns Grove (9-2) - tough playoff loss - 2nd seed in playoffs - 121 power points
4. Glassboro (9-2) – Defending Group 1 South Champions - ran out of stream! - 1st seed with 135 power points
5. Pennsville (7-3) - 6th seed with 89
6. Schalick (7-3) - 7th seed with 88
7. Haddon Heights (6-4) - 5th seed with 97
8. Florence (6-4) - 6th seed in Central - 88
9. Palmyra (6-4) - 8th seed with 72
10. Burlington City (5-5) - 69
11. Audubon (5-5) - 50
12. Haddon Twp. (5-5) - 56
15. Lindenwold (2-8) - 56 - drops with consolation loss
16. Pitman (4-6) - both wins are over Wildwood! - 35
17. Clayton (3-4) - 28 - beat Salem and Riverside but short on power points due to number of games played
18. Salem (2-8) - 45
19. New Egypt (2-8) - 34
20. Gateway (0-10) - 27
21. Riverside (0-10) - 19
22. Wildwood (0-8) - 21
Playoffs:
2009 Tri-County Rankings - Final
http://boro70tc.blogspot.com/
Please answer poll questions on the Tri-County blog!
There are 7 playoff teams: Glassboro, Penns Grove, Pennsville and Schalick in Group 1; Delsea in Group 2; Williamstown in Group 4; Gloucester Catholic in Non-Public Group 2
Only Delsea survives, but Williamstown is the best!
2009 Gloucester County Rankings - Final
2 won their Groups!
I am not listing the computer rankings as I think that their bogusness has been well proven. I may get back to at the end of the season.
Several changes!!!
1. Williamstown (10-1) last year #3
2. Delsea (11-1) last year #5 -Group 3 Champions
3. Woodbury (11-1) - Group 1 Champions and proved that the first win over Paulsboro was not a fluke!
4. Washington Twp. (8-2)
5. Paulsboro (10-2)
6. West Deptford (9-2) last year #6 - gets ranked above Glassboro based on margin against one common opponent
7. Glassboro (9-2) – defending Classic Division and Group1 South Champions - last year #1 - ran out of steam this year!
8. Kingsway (5-5)
9. Clearview (3-7)
10. Pitman (4-6) - beat Clayton
11. Clayton (3-4)
12. Deptford (0-10)
13. Gateway (0-10)
Sunday, December 07, 2008
Games I attended in 2008:
Glassboro at Bridgeton - scrimmage
Gloucester Catholic at Glassboro - scrimmage
Glassboro at Lindenwold - scrimmage
Salem at Glassboro
Clearview at Gloucester Catholic
2nd quarter of Washington Twp. vs. Winslow Twp. (rest was viewed on TV)
Glassboro at Pennsville
Williamstown at Deptford
Gloucester Catholic at Delsea
Glassboro at Clayton
Wildwood at Glassboro
Woodrow Wilson at Florence
Glassboro at Schalick
Woodstown at Gloucester Catholic and Maine at Delaware
Gloucester at Glassboro
Deptford at Gloucester Catholic
Penns Grove at Glassboro
Schalick at Gloucester
Woodstown at Kingsway (early) and Clearview at Cumberland (late)
Williamstown at Gloucester Catholic
Glassboro at Pitman
Gateway at Paulsboro
playoff - Gloucester at Glassboro
playoff - Penns Grove at Woodbury
playoff - Haddonfield at Delsea
playoff - Glassboro at Paulsboro
Deptford at Glassboro
St. Joe's at Hammonton (good food!)
playoff - West Deptford at Delsea
playoff - Penns Grove at Glassboro
Championships:
Shawnee wins Group 3 with a 28-7 victory over Hammonton
Who should be #1?
The only common opponent was Hammonton. Mainland beat them by 31 and Shawnee beat them by 21.
Delsea wins Group 2 in a tight game with a last secong FG over West Deptford 17-14.
Glassboro wins Group 1 with a 28-8 win over Penns Grove.
Since Glassboro beat Paulsboro by 8 which beat West Deptford by 9, that would give Glassboro a 17 point advantage, but Delsea beat Deptford by 36 and Glassboro beat Deptford by 20 which would give Delsea a 16 point advantage. So point spreads are even, but Glassboro went undefeated whereas Delsea lost to a non-playoff team.
Holy Cross wins Non-Public 2 with a 7-0 win over Hudson Catholic. With 2 losses to playoff teams and one loss to a non-playoff team, it is hrd to know where to place them.
So, I rank the Champions:
1. Mainland
2. Shawnee
3. Glassboro
4. Delsea
5. Holy Cross
Amongst non-champions:
Cherokee looks to be the strongest by far and should be #3 in South Jersey
Washington Twp. beat Williamstown and they come after the undefeated teams.
St. Augustine only lost in the playoffs. they lost by a big score, but the team they lost to is a great team. They get ranked right behind Williamstown.
Paulsboro would be next with their great defense and only 1 loss.
Hammonton has 3 losses and one could consider them next, but Egg Harbor Township with 4 losses had better performances against their common opponents and beat Hammonton by 18. Hard to put Egg Harbor Twp. any higher with 4 losses, but they definitely belong above Hammonton.
Eastern beat Washington Twp. They lost to Mainland by 28 and Hammonton lost to Mainland by 31. Egg Harbor Twp. lost to Mainland by 3.
Anothet team to consider is Triton. They lost to Shawnee by 26 and 35 and Hammonton lost by 21.
So, my top 10 for all of the traditional South Jersey area is:
1. Mainland 12-0
2. Shawnee 12-0
3. Cherokee 9-2 - lost to Shawnee and Southern
4. Glassboro 12-0
5. Washington Twp. 8-3 - lost to Cherokee, Mainland and Eastern - can't be higher with 3 losses, but they are ranked higher than 3 one loss teams.
6. Williamstown 9-1 - lost to Washington Twp. or would have been #4
7. St. Augustine 10-1 - lost to Bergen Catholic
8. Paulsboro 9-1 - lost to Glassboro
9. Egg Harbor Twp. 6-4 - lost to Atlantic City, Ocean City, Cherokee and Mainland,
10. Eastern 7-3 - lost to Pennsauken, Cherokee and Mainland - loss to Pennsauken keeps them from being ranked #5
2008: Small School Rankings
I am having trouble posting comments in this section, but I do read them and absorb them.
I am not listing the computer rankings as I think that their bogusness has been well proven. I may get back to them later in the season.
Explanations of rankings are in the weekly reports above and below.
I question whether some of the non-public teams should even be a part of these rankings, but I will follow the CP's lead and if their enrollment is less than the largest Group 2 in the state, I will include them. CP rankings are for 11/29
Few adjustments this week!!!! I made made some adjsutments based on the Finals and another just based on further thought.
1. Glassboro (12-0) CP #1
last year #2
2. Paulsboro (10-1) CP #3
last year #5
3. Gloucester Catholic (9-2) CP #5
last year #6
4. Camden Catholic (9-2) CP #2
last year #4
5. Delsea (8-3) CP #6
last year - not ranked
6. West Deptford (9-2) CP #4
last year #7
7. Holy Cross (7-3) CP not ranked - perhaps I have them too high as they lost to two teams way below, but they won their group!
last year #3
8. Holy Spirit (7-3) CP #10
last year #1
9. Buena (7-4) CP not ranked
last year #27
10. Haddonfield (8-3) CP #7 - beat HH and Woodbury 56-26 for a margin of 30
last year #25
11. Penns Grove (9-3) CP not ranked - beat HH and Woodbury 42-21 for a margin of 21
last year #15
12. Gloucester (6-4) - lost to PG by 1
last year #18
13. Woodbury (7-3) - lost to PG by 7
last year #12
14. St. Joe’s (5-5) - I moved them down because I just felt that I had them too high with 5 losses.
last year #9
15. Haddon Heights (5-6) - did a number on Palmyra; it is not like it was a fluke - HH was clearly the better team
last year #23
16. Palmyra (9-1) CP #10 - tough place to put them, but I have to put them below HH
last year #16
17. Delran (8-3) CP #8 - back below Palmyra
last year #13
18. Bridgeton (5-5)
last year #11
19. Bishop Eustace (5-6)
last year #28
20. Florence (6-4)
last year #8
21. Pennsville (6-4)
last year #20
22. Burlington Twp. (5-5)
last year #14
23. Haddon Twp. (5-5)
last year #24
24. Audubon (4-6)
last year #21
25. Gateway (4-6)
last year #39
26. New Egypt (5-5)
last year #22
27. Camden (4-6)
last year – not ranked
28. Woodrow Wilson (4-6)
last year – not ranked
29. Maple Shade (5-5)
last year #32
30. Collingswood (4-6)
last year #33
31. Sterling (3-7)
last year #30
32. Schalick (4-6)
last year #17
33. Willingboro (3-7)
last year #37
34. Cinnaminson (3-7)
last year #26
35. Riverside (4-6)
last year #42
36. Pemberton (3-7)
last year – not ranked
37. Overbrook (2-8)
last year #36
38. Lindenwold (2-8)
last year #19
39. Middle Twp. (3-7)
last year #34
40. Woodstown (3-7)
last year #31
41. Pitman (2-8)
last year #44
42. Salem (2-8)
last year #40
43. Pleasantville (1-9)
last year #36
44. Bordentown (1-9)
last year #38
45. Burlington City (1-9)
last year #41
46. Lower Cape May (0-10)
last year - not ranked
47. Clayton (1-8)
last year #43
48. Wildwood (1-7)
last year #45
2008: Group 1 Rankings
I am not listing the computer rankings as I think that their bogusness has been well proven. I may add them later if I have time.
Explanations of rankings are in the weekly reports above and below.
Not much to change this week!!!!
1. Glassboro (12-0) – Classic Division and Group 1 South Champions
last year #1
2. Paulsboro (10-1)
last year #2
3. Penns Grove (9-3)
last year #5
4. Gloucester (6-4)
last year #8
5. Woodbury (7-3)
last year #4
6. Haddon Heights (5-6)
last year #13
7. Palmyra (9-1)
last year #6
8. Florence (6-4)
last year #3
9. Pennsville (6-4)
last year #10
10. Haddon Twp. (5-5)
last year #14
11. Audubon (4-6)
last year #10
12. Gateway (4-6)
last year #18
13. New Egypt (5-5)
last year #12
14. Maple Shade (5-5)
last year #
15. Schalick (4-6)
last year #7
16. Riverside (4-6)
last year #21
17. Lindenwold (2-8)
last year #9
18. Woodstown (3-7)
last year #15
19. Pitman (2-8)
last year #23
20. Salem (2-8)
last year #19
21. Bordentown (1-9)
last year #17
22. Burlington City (1-9)
last year #20
23. Clayton (1-8)
last year #22
24. Wildwood (1-7)
last year #24
2008: Gloucester County Rankings
I am not listing the computer rankings as I think that their bogusness has been well proven. I may get back to them later in the season.
Explanations of rankings are in the weekly reports above and below.
1. Glassboro (12-0) – defending Classic Division and Group1 South Champions -
last year #1
2. Washington Twp (7-3)
last year #2
3. Williamstown (9-1)
last year #3
4. Paulsboro (9-1) last year #4
5. Delsea (8-3)
last year #6
6. West Deptford (9-2)
last year #5
7. Clearview (6-4)
last year #7
8. Woodbury (7-3)
last year #8
9. Kingsway (3-7)
last year #9
10. Gateway (4-6)
last year #11
11. Deptford (1-8)
last year #10
12. Pitman (2-8) - based on overall better season than Clayton
last year #13
13. Clayton (1-8)
last year #12
Saturday, November 29, 2008
Thanksgiving:
Eastern beats Washington Twp. 27-21 in OT. These teams always play a competitive game.
Thursday:
Mainland barely beats Egg Harbor Twp. 30-27
Clayton upsets Pitman 14-7
Kingsway upsets Clearview 27-6
Overbrook upsets Lindenwold 20-12
Riveride upsets Florence 6-0
Woodbury comes form behind to beat Gateway 19-14
Woodstown plays a close one and beats Salem 22-20
Friday:
Paulsboro beats West Deptford 19-10; Any defense that can hold Glassboro to 3 TDs and then hold WD to a TD and a FG is EXCELLENT!!!!
Hammonton crushes St. Joe's 27-0; Hammonton is a good team, but not an elite team and St. Joe's will significantly drop in my rankings
Moorestown beats Holy Cross 28-7; both of HC's defeats have been by big margins
St. Augustine beats Buena 38-28; Buena put up a good fight
Group 1 finalists: Glassboro and Penns Grove both win - Glassboro is 11-0 and one of the eleite of South Jersey; Paulsboro which is not in the finals is another elite team; Penns Grove would be a 2nd tier team
Group 2 finalists: Delsea loses to Williamstown; West Deptford lost - WD is 9-1 and one of the elite teams; Buena, Delsea and Haddonfield would be 2nd tier teams;
Group 3 finalists: Shawnee and Hammonton both win - Shawnee is 11-0 and one of the elite teams; Cumberland, Hammonton, Ocean City, Triton would be on the 2nd tier
Group 4 finalists: Mainland survives a scare and is 11-0; Southern wins also - Mainland is 11-0 and is of the elite teams; they should learn from thier close call and be even better. There are a few elite teams in Group 4 - Cherokee, Williamstown, Washington Twp., Eastern; Egg Harbor is close to the elite but I will put them 2nd tier along with Absegami and Atlantic City
Non-Public Group 2: Holy Cross lost to Moorestown 28-7; Hudson Catholic did not play - Holy Cross and St. Joe's would be 2nd tier teams
Non-Public 3 and 4: no South Jersey teams survived here - St. Augustine, Camden Catholic and Gloucester Catholic could be put among the elite; Holy Spirit would be on the second tier
So my elite in alpha order: (none of these teams has lost to anyone from South Jersey who is not also on this list except for Eastern)
Camden Catholic
Cherokee
Eastern
Glassboro
Gloucester Catholic
Mainland
Paulsboro
Shawnee
St. Augustine
Washington Twp.
West Deptford
Williamstown
the 2nd tier:
Absegami
Atlantic City
Buena
Cumberland
Delsea
Haddonfield
Hammonton
Holy Cross
Holy Spirit
Ocean City
Penns Grove
St. Joe's
Triton
So there are my top 25 in no particular order with plenty of room for debate.
Small groups:
Glassboro clearly is on top with Paulsboro and West Deptford right behind.
CC and GC make the top 5 easy to figure out.
After those 5, it gets muddled:
Delsea, St. Joe's and Buena lost this week to highly regarded teams while Holy Spirit, Penns Grove and Haddonfield won. Holy Cross lost to a good team, but a team that was having a down year.
Holy Spirit beat Buena earlier in the season as did St. Joe's; Buena beat PG; Delsea beat Haddonfield; Haddonfield beat Woodbury by 9 more than PG did. St. Joe's has 5 losses and did not look good against Hammonton and has to be ranked below a team they beat simply because of all of their losses and the big loss this week.
So: HC, HS, Delsea, Buena, Haddonfield, PG, St. Joe's
Next:
Gloucester, Woodbury, Haddon Heights, Palmyra, Delran
They all either won against a lower ranked team or lost to a higher ranked team. I keep them in the same order.
Bishop Eustace, Florence, Pennsville all lost
Bridgeton and Burlington Twp. did not play
I'll move Bridgeton up just on a hunch and leave the others in their previous order.
Haddon Twp. beat Audubon and moves ahead.
Gateway had a good showing in their loss to Woodbury and stays just behind HT and Audubon.
New Egypt won and maintains their ranking.
Camden moves up ahead of Woodrow Wilson and Maple Shade.
Collingswood moves past Schalick and Sterling. Schalick drops below Sterling after being soundly defeated.
Willingboro beat Cinnaminson which beat Riverside and they stay as ranked, but give credit to Riverside for beating Florence!
Pemberton, Lindenwold, Middle Twp., Woodstown, Pitman, Salem, Overbrook
Overbrook moves above Lindenwold, otherwise they stay the same.
Pleasantville, Bordentown, Burlington city and Lower Cape May stay in order.
Clayton moves up above Wildwood based on having beat a higher ranked team despite their earlier loss to Wildwood.
Sunday, November 23, 2008
11/23/08
Group 1:
Glassboro 21, Paulsboro 13
Penns Grove 14, Haddon Heights 0
This sets up the first ever all Tri-County Group 1 Final.
First time since 1999 that a Colonial Conference team is not in the finals.
Last time that neither the Colonial nor Tri-County had a finalist and the last time that Gloucester county did not have a finalist was 1985.
I will move Palmyra up in my standings based on my poll in which 52% felt that they should be ranked higher, but even though the majority stated that they should be higher than 15, I just can't bring myself to rank them above Haddon Heights.
Group 2:
Delsea 39, Haddonfield 29
West Deptford 39, Buena 21
Interesting how both winners scored 39.
This sets up an all Gloucester County final. The only other time this happened was in 1986, which was an all Tri-County final.
I can't punish teams too much for a playoff loss in Round 2.
Group 3:
Shawnee 35, Triton 0
Hammonton 13, Lacey 6
The last time the Cape-Atalantic played the Olympic in the finals was in 2001.
Group 4:
Mainland 45, Washington Twp. 10
Southern 14, Cherokee 13 OT
The Cape-Atlantic also played the Shore in the finals last year.
Central Group 2:
Manasquan 21, Delran 20
The other bracket also had a 21-20 game.
There are now no South Jersey teams alive in the Central brackets.
Non-Public Group 2:
Holy Cross 25, Bishop Eustace 7
Hudson Catholic 3, St. Joe's 0
Holy Cross upped the score in the re-match and should be favored in the finals. They will move ahead of Paulsboro in my rankings.
Non-Public 3:
Immaculata 14, Gloucester Catholic 7
St. Joe's-Montvale 35, Camden Catholic 7
Neither loss should count against these teams in the rankings.
Sunday, November 16, 2008
11/16/08
Group 1:
#8 Haddon Heights 33, #1 Palmyra 9
#2 Paulsboro 50, #7 Pennsville 7
#3 Glassboro 34, #6 Gloucester 0 – Gloucester showed Glassboro where they needed to improve in the first meeting and the Dogs learned well.
#5 Penns Grove 28, #4 Woodbury 21 – best game of the week
Colonial vs. Tri-County in round 2:
Glassboro and Paulsboro are the favorites and Paulsboro should be packed this week.
Haddon Heights at Penns Grove is a very interesting match-up.
Group 2:
#1 Delsea – bye
#2 West Deptford – bye
#3 Buena 29, Bridgeton 7 – each team scored one more point than their first meeting
#4 Haddonfield 52, Woodrow Wilson 13
Colonial teams take on the Tri-County and the CAL.
Toss-up group with Delsea and West Deptford being favored.
Group 3:
#1 Shawnee 42, #8 Timber Creek 18 – first meeting was 28-14
#2 Hammonton 42, #7 Cumberland 21
#6 Lacey 6, #3 Ocean City 0 – best game in this group
#5 Triton 28, #4 Brick Twp. 7
Rematches in round 2:
Shawnee is heavily favored and beat Triton 39-13 earlier in the season.
Hammonton beat Ocean City 42-13 earlier in the season.
Group 4:
#1 Mainland 42, #8 Eastern 14
#2 Cherokee 34, #7 Egg Harbor 18
#6 Southern 20, #3 Toms River North 9 – TRN had won first meeting 7-6
#4 Washington Twp. 28, #5 Williamstown 24
Olympic Conference vs. Mainland again this week.
Central Group 1:
Florence loses to a strong Bound Brook team 36-26
New Egypt loses to highly regarded Asbury Park 14-0 – lowest point total for Asbury Park this year!
Central Group 2:
Delran beats Raritan 42-0
Burlington Twp. loses to Point Pleasant Boro 41-19
Central Group 4:
Pennsauken loses to top seed South Brunswick 21-12
Non-Public Group 2:
Bishop Eustace beats Morris Catholic 28-14 and will now play Holy Cross in round 2 – HC won their regular season game 21-14 in OT, so this could be a good one!
St. Joseph’s of Hammonton (5-3) travels to Hudson Catholic (5-3) in round 2.
Non-Public Group 3:
#3 Gloucester Catholic beat #6 Pope John 37-14 and now plays #2 Immaculata
#5 Camden Catholic beat #4 Bishop Ahr 34-17 and now plays the winner (Sunday game) of #1 St. Joe’s–Montvale vs. #8 Delbarton.
#7 Holy Spirit loses to #2 Immaculata 21-20 in OT
Small Schools rankings:
It has to remain Glassboro, Paulsboro and West Deptford. I rank the 3 based on their last year’s performance vs. each other. Glassboro beat Paulsboro and Paulsboro beat West Deptford. But West Deptford has larger margins of victories against common opponents with Paulsboro. When I get to the Gloucester County rankings, it will be tough to decide where to place Washington Twp. and Williamstown amongst them.
Palmyra goes down and the question is “how far”, but Camden Catholic and Gloucester Catholic are strong 8-1 teams.
GC looks good, but the Royal Division did not fare well this week.
GC has more power points than CC. They both lost to undefeated teams. I’ll give the edge to GC keep them over CC. They will probably not meet in the playoffs to settle it, but there may be a comparative score from a common opponent.
So: Glassboro, Paulsboro, WD, GC and CC are the easy top 5 in whatever order you want to put them.
After those 5, we have to look at two loss teams. Holy Cross, Holy Spirit and Delsea get the top nods. Then you look at Buena, Delran, Haddonfield and Penns Grove.
And Palmyra drops farther – how far?
I’ll rank the top three by power points: Holy Spirit, Holy Cross, Delsea
Delran lost to 2 impressive teams as did Buena and Haddonfield. Buena has more power points, so I will give them the slight edge for now. Delran and Haddonfield are equal in power points (prior to playoffs), but Haddonfield was shutout in their two losses.
Buena beat PG so those 2 are easy.
Haddonfield’s conference proved itself this week, so Haddonfield goes above Delran.
Haddonfield beat Woodbury by 16 and PG won by 7, so I will rank them Buena, Delran Haddonfield, PG.
At 5-3, we have St. Joe’s. Their losses are to impressive teams. They beat Buena by 7 so I’ll rank them above them.
So, starting with #6, I have Holy Cross, Delsea, St. Joe’s, Buena and Haddonfield to round out the top ten.
Then I have Delran and PG.
But where do I put Palmyra? Do I drop them and all of their Division below Haddon Heights?
At 3 losses, we have Florence, Gloucester, Holy Spirit, Pennsville , Woodbury and St.Joe’s (above). The 4 loss teams Haddon Heights and Bishop Eustace need to put in with them as they remain in the playoffs.
I feel that Holy Spirit belongs above them having lost in OT by just one point.
Then I go with Bishop Eustace. All of their losses are to playoff teams.
Next comes Haddon Heights as they were impressive this week.
(but what about Palmyra?)
I strongly feel than Gloucester and Woodbury could beat Palmyra, but Pennsville could not.
So, Holy Spirit, Bishop Eustace, Haddon Heights, Gloucester, Woodbury, Palmyra, Florence and Pennsville
At 5 losses we have Audubon, Bridgeton, Burlington Twp., Haddon Twp., Gateway, Maple Shade, New Egypt, Schalick and Woodrow Wilson. We also have Sterling which plays on Monday.
I rank Bridgeton and Burlington Twp. on top of this group.
The Colonial Conference proved that they belong next.
Audubon beat Gateway.
Gateway beat Sterling, but lost to Audubon and Haddon Twp.
Haddon Twp. beat Gateway, but lost to Sterling.
Woodrow Wilson lost to New Egypt.
Maple Shade lost to WW.
Maple Shade beat Salem by 21 and Schalick beat them by 8.
So, I have Bridgeton, Burlington Twp., Audubon, Haddon Twp., Gateway, New Egypt, Woodrow Wilson, Maple Shade and Schalick. Sterling goes below them until after Monday night and then I will adjust.
At 6 losses, we have Camden, Cinnaminson, Collingswood, Pemberton, Riverside and Willingboro.
Camden is first based on level of competition and will be just behind Sterling until they play on Monday.
Collingswood is next based on the strength that the Colonial Conference showed this week.
Willingboro beat Pemberton by 29 and Cinnaminson by 3.
Cinnaminson beat Riverside by 19.
So, I rank them: Camden, Collingswood, Willingboro, Cinnaminson, Riverside and Pemberton.
At 2-7, we have Lindenwold, Middle Township, Pitman, Salem and Woodstown.
Lindenwold goes first based on strength of conference.
Woodstown is next based on Schedule strength.
Middle Twp. lost to Pennsville by 1 and Pennsville beat Pitman by 22. Pitman beat Salem.
So I will rank them: Lindenwold, Middle Twp., Woodstown, Pitman and Salem
At 1-7, 1-8 and 1-9 we have Bordentown, Burlington City, Overbrook, Pleasantville and Wildwood, but Wildwood gets ranked below most 0-8 teams.
Overbrook and then Pleasantville come from the stronger conferences. Overbrook beat Pleasantville.
Bordentown beat Burlington City.
At 0-8 and 0-9, we have Clayton and Lower Cape May.
So, I rank them: Overbrook, Pleasantville, Bordentown, Burlington City, LCM, Wildwood and Clayton
Sunday, November 09, 2008
11/09/08
Playoff time!!!
Group 1: overall records = 52-12
Glassboro, Palmyra and Paulsboro start the playoffs undefeated at 8-0.
Gloucester, Penns Grove, Pennsville and Woodbury come in at 6-2.
Haddon Heights is in at 4-4
Only Haddon Heights lost this week (to undefeated West Deptford)
#1 Palmyra vs. #8 Haddon Heights
#2 Paulsboro vs. #7 Pennsville
#3 Glassboro vs. #6 Gloucester
#4 Woodbury vs. #5 Penns Grove
Glassboro and Paulsboro are the favorites. Palmyra may have the roughest road in round 1 despite being 1st seed. Gloucester has been known to cause trouble for Glassboro in nthe first round.
Group 2: overall records = 30-14
West Deptford starts the playoffs undefeated at 8-0.
Delsea is in at 6-2, but has the top seed!
Buena and Haddonfield are also in at 6-2.
Woodrow Wilson and Bridgeton are in at 4-4.
#1 Delsea – bye
#2 West Deptford – bye
#3 Buena vs. Bridgeton
#4 Haddonfield vs. Woodrow Wilson
Toss-up group with Delsea and West Deptford being favored.
Group 3: overall records = 43-21
Shawnee is undefeated at 8-0
Hammonton is in at 6-2
Brick Twp., Cumberland, Ocean City, Triton and Timber Creek are in at 5-3
Lacey is in at 4-4.
#1 Shawnee vs. #8 Timber Creek
#2 Hammonton vs. #7 Cumberland
#3 Ocean City vs. #6 Lacey
#4 Brick Twp. vs. #5 Triton
Shawnee is heavily favored.
Group 4: overall records = 56-8
Mainland and Williamstown are both undefeated at 8-0.
Cherokee, Southern, Toms River North and Washington Twp. are in at 7-1.
Eastern and Egg Harbor are in at 6-2.
#1 Mainland vs. #8 Eastern
#2 Cherokee vs. #7 Egg Harbor
#3 Toms River North vs. #6 Southern
#4 Washington Twp. vs. #5 Williamstown
Mainland is heavily favored, so many teams will seek to prove their worth and to take some pride in winning in the first round.
Williamstown and Washington Twp. is a natural rivalry and Williamstown needs to win to show that they are worthy of Group 4 as they have no Group 4 schools on their regular schedule.
Central Group 1:
Florence (6-2) is 6th seed and travels to Bound Brook (8-0).
New Egypt (4-4) is 8th seed and travels to heavily favored top seed Asbury Park (8-0).
Central Group 2:
Delran (6-2) is 5th seed and travels to Raritan (6-2).
Burlington Twp. (5-3) is 6th seed and travels to Point Pleasant Boro (7-1).
Central Group 4:
Pennsauken (5-3) is 8th seed and travels to top seed South Brunswick (7-1).
Non-Public Group 2:
Only 5 teams qualified.
Bishop Eustace (4-4) hosts Morris Catholic (4-4) with the winner facing Holy Cross (6-2) in round 2.
St. Joseph’s of Hammonton (5-3) travels to Hudson Catholic (5-3) in round 2.
Non-Public Group 3:
#3 Gloucester Catholic (7-1) hosts #6 Pope John (7-1).
#5 Camden Catholic (7-1) travels to #4 Bishop Ahr (7-1)
#7 Holy Spirit (6-2) travels to #2 Immaculata (7-1).
Small Schools rankings:
It has to remain Glassboro, Paulsboro and West Deptford. I rank the 3 based on their last year’s performance vs. each other. Glassboro beat Paulsboro and Paulsboro beat West Deptford. But West Deptford has larger margins of victories against common opponents with Paulsboro.
Palmyra hangs in there at 8-0, but Camden Catholic and Gloucester Catholic are strong 7-1 teams.
CC beat Delran by 38 compared to Palmyra winning by 16.
Palmyra beat Cinnaminson by 30 compared to CC winning by 22.
Tough call as there is slight edge to CC, but I will leave palmyra ahead of them because they are undefeated.
GC has more power points than CC. They both lost to undefeated teams. I’ll give the edge to GC and move them up over CC. They will probably not meet in the playoffs to settle it.
So: Glassboro, Paulsboro, WD, Palmyra, GC, CC
After those 6, we have to look at 6-2 teams. Holy Cross, Holy Spirit and Delsea get the top nods. Then you look at Buena, Delran, Florence, Gloucester, Haddonfield, Penns Grove, Pennsville and Woodbury.
I’ll rank the top three by power points: Holy Spirit, Holy Cross, Delsea
Delran lost to 2 impressive teams as did Buena and Haddonfield. Buena has more power points, so I will give them the slight edge for now. Delran and Haddonfield are equal in power points, but Haddonfield was shutout in their two losses.
Buena beat PG which beat Gloucester which beat Pennsville, so those 4 are easy. Where to put Florence and Haddonfield within them is the tough call. I have seen Florence and have to rank them below Gloucester. I’ll put them above PV due their strong edge in coaching.
Haddonfield has more power points than PG and Gloucester, so I will rank them after Buena and Delran.
Woodbury lost to Haddonfield and is seeded above PG.
So, I will rank them: Buena, Delran, Haddonfield, Woodbury, PG, Gloucester, Florence, Pennsville
Since St. Joe’s beat 5-4 Bridgeton, there is no debate to rank them above Bridgeton. The question is whether to rank them above most 6-2 teams.
At 5-3, we have St. Joe’s. Their losses are to impressive teams. They beat Buena by 7 and have more power points than any of the 6-2 teams. I’ll rank them above the 6-2 teams.
At 5-4 we have Bridgeton and Burlington Twp.
It is hard to judge as Bridgeton and Burlington Twp. have no common opponents, but Bridgeton has bounced back after losing their first 3 games and they get the nod. All Bridgeton’s losses are to playoff teams.
At 4-4 we have Bishop Eustace, Haddon Heights, New Egypt, Schalick and Woodrow Wilson.
Woodrow Wilson lost to New Egypt which lost to Bishop Eustace, so that part is easy.
Bishop Eustace took Holy Cross to OT, so I’ll put them first.
Haddon Heights gets the second spot, but can be compared to New Egypt after they have at least one common opponent after next week.
New Egypt is next.
WW gets the nod ahead of Schalick because they beat a winning team.
At 4-5, we have Maple Shade.
I’ll rank them between the 4-4’s and 3-5’s until after the consolation games.
At 3-5 we have Audubon, Collingswood, Gateway, Haddon Twp., Pemberton, Sterling, and Willingboro.
Willingboro beat Pemberton.
Audubon beat Gateway, but lost to Haddon Twp.
Collingswood beat Audubon, but lost to Gateway and Haddon Twp.
Gateway beat Collingswood and Sterling, but lost to Audubon and Haddon Twp.
Haddon Twp. beat Collingswood and Gateway, but lost to Sterling.
Sterling beat Haddon Twp., but lost to Gateway.
So this goes around in circles, so I will cop out and rank them by Power Points, then head-to-head and then schedule strength.
Gateway has 17 power points
Haddon Twp. has 15 power points.
Audubon has 15 power points and lost to HT.
Collingswood has 12 power points.
Sterling has 12 power points and lost to Collingswood
So, I rank them: Willingboro, Pemberton, Gateway, Haddon Twp., Audubon, Collingswood, Sterling – but I rank two 2-6 team above all of them!
At 2-6, we have Camden, Cinnaminson, Middle Township, Pitman, Riverside, Salem and Woodstown.
Camden and Woodstown have faced the toughest schedules. Camden beat 3-5 Pemberton and deserves to be above them. Camden beat Pemberton by 11 and WW beat them by 8. They deserve to be ahead of the 3-5 teams. Woodstown beat Group 3 teams, Deptford and Highland and deserves to be somewhere in the mix of 3-5 teams also.
Middle Twp. lost to Pennsville by 1 and Pennsville beat Pitman by 22. Pitman beat Salem.
Cinnaminson beat Riverside.
I’ll rank them: Cinnaminson, Middle Twp., Pitman, Riverside, Salem
At 1-7, we have Bordentown, Lindenwold, Pleasantville and Wildwood, but Wildwood gets ranked below most 0-8 teams.
Lindenwold beat a 3 win team. The others beat winless teams.
At 0-8, we have Burlington City, Clayton, Lower Cape May and Overbrook.
I move Overbrook above LCM after LCM’s loss to otherwise winless Pleasantville.
So, I rank them (with the 1 win teams in parenthesis): (Lindenwold), Overbrook, (Bordentown), (Pleasantville), LCM, Burlington City, (Wildwood), Clayton