I have attended the following games and scrimmages:
Glassboro at Bridgeton - scrimmage
Gloucester Catholic at Glassboro - scrimmage
Glassboro at Lindenwold - scrimmage
Salem at Glassboro
Clearview at Gloucester Catholic
2nd quarter of Washington Twp. vs. Winslow Twp. (rest was viewed on TV)
Glassboro at Pennsville
Williamstown at Deptford
Gloucester Catholic at Delsea
Glassboro at Clayton
Wildwood at Glassboro
Woodrow Wilson at Florence
Glassboro at Schalick
Woodstown at Gloucester Catholic and Maine at Delaware
Gloucester at Glassboro
Deptford at Gloucester Catholic
Penns Grove at Glassboro
Schalick at Gloucester
Woodstown at Kingsway (early) and Clearview at Cumberland (late)
Williamstown at Gloucester Catholic
Glassboro at Pitman
Gateway at Paulsboro
playoff - Gloucester at Glassboro
playoff - Penns Grove at Woodbury
playoff - Haddonfield at Delsea
playoff - Glassboro at Paulsboro
Deptford at Glassboro
St. Joe's at Hammonton (good food!)
playoff - West Deptford at Delsea
playoff - Penns Grove at Glassboro
Sunday, December 07, 2008
Championships:
Mainland wins Group 4 with a 21-14 victory over Southern. It was 21-0 at the half
Shawnee wins Group 3 with a 28-7 victory over Hammonton
Who should be #1?
The only common opponent was Hammonton. Mainland beat them by 31 and Shawnee beat them by 21.
Delsea wins Group 2 in a tight game with a last secong FG over West Deptford 17-14.
Glassboro wins Group 1 with a 28-8 win over Penns Grove.
Since Glassboro beat Paulsboro by 8 which beat West Deptford by 9, that would give Glassboro a 17 point advantage, but Delsea beat Deptford by 36 and Glassboro beat Deptford by 20 which would give Delsea a 16 point advantage. So point spreads are even, but Glassboro went undefeated whereas Delsea lost to a non-playoff team.
Holy Cross wins Non-Public 2 with a 7-0 win over Hudson Catholic. With 2 losses to playoff teams and one loss to a non-playoff team, it is hrd to know where to place them.
So, I rank the Champions:
1. Mainland
2. Shawnee
3. Glassboro
4. Delsea
5. Holy Cross
Amongst non-champions:
Cherokee looks to be the strongest by far and should be #3 in South Jersey
Washington Twp. beat Williamstown and they come after the undefeated teams.
St. Augustine only lost in the playoffs. they lost by a big score, but the team they lost to is a great team. They get ranked right behind Williamstown.
Paulsboro would be next with their great defense and only 1 loss.
Hammonton has 3 losses and one could consider them next, but Egg Harbor Township with 4 losses had better performances against their common opponents and beat Hammonton by 18. Hard to put Egg Harbor Twp. any higher with 4 losses, but they definitely belong above Hammonton.
Eastern beat Washington Twp. They lost to Mainland by 28 and Hammonton lost to Mainland by 31. Egg Harbor Twp. lost to Mainland by 3.
Anothet team to consider is Triton. They lost to Shawnee by 26 and 35 and Hammonton lost by 21.
So, my top 10 for all of the traditional South Jersey area is:
1. Mainland 12-0
2. Shawnee 12-0
3. Cherokee 9-2 - lost to Shawnee and Southern
4. Glassboro 12-0
5. Washington Twp. 8-3 - lost to Cherokee, Mainland and Eastern - can't be higher with 3 losses, but they are ranked higher than 3 one loss teams.
6. Williamstown 9-1 - lost to Washington Twp. or would have been #4
7. St. Augustine 10-1 - lost to Bergen Catholic
8. Paulsboro 9-1 - lost to Glassboro
9. Egg Harbor Twp. 6-4 - lost to Atlantic City, Ocean City, Cherokee and Mainland,
10. Eastern 7-3 - lost to Pennsauken, Cherokee and Mainland - loss to Pennsauken keeps them from being ranked #5
Shawnee wins Group 3 with a 28-7 victory over Hammonton
Who should be #1?
The only common opponent was Hammonton. Mainland beat them by 31 and Shawnee beat them by 21.
Delsea wins Group 2 in a tight game with a last secong FG over West Deptford 17-14.
Glassboro wins Group 1 with a 28-8 win over Penns Grove.
Since Glassboro beat Paulsboro by 8 which beat West Deptford by 9, that would give Glassboro a 17 point advantage, but Delsea beat Deptford by 36 and Glassboro beat Deptford by 20 which would give Delsea a 16 point advantage. So point spreads are even, but Glassboro went undefeated whereas Delsea lost to a non-playoff team.
Holy Cross wins Non-Public 2 with a 7-0 win over Hudson Catholic. With 2 losses to playoff teams and one loss to a non-playoff team, it is hrd to know where to place them.
So, I rank the Champions:
1. Mainland
2. Shawnee
3. Glassboro
4. Delsea
5. Holy Cross
Amongst non-champions:
Cherokee looks to be the strongest by far and should be #3 in South Jersey
Washington Twp. beat Williamstown and they come after the undefeated teams.
St. Augustine only lost in the playoffs. they lost by a big score, but the team they lost to is a great team. They get ranked right behind Williamstown.
Paulsboro would be next with their great defense and only 1 loss.
Hammonton has 3 losses and one could consider them next, but Egg Harbor Township with 4 losses had better performances against their common opponents and beat Hammonton by 18. Hard to put Egg Harbor Twp. any higher with 4 losses, but they definitely belong above Hammonton.
Eastern beat Washington Twp. They lost to Mainland by 28 and Hammonton lost to Mainland by 31. Egg Harbor Twp. lost to Mainland by 3.
Anothet team to consider is Triton. They lost to Shawnee by 26 and 35 and Hammonton lost by 21.
So, my top 10 for all of the traditional South Jersey area is:
1. Mainland 12-0
2. Shawnee 12-0
3. Cherokee 9-2 - lost to Shawnee and Southern
4. Glassboro 12-0
5. Washington Twp. 8-3 - lost to Cherokee, Mainland and Eastern - can't be higher with 3 losses, but they are ranked higher than 3 one loss teams.
6. Williamstown 9-1 - lost to Washington Twp. or would have been #4
7. St. Augustine 10-1 - lost to Bergen Catholic
8. Paulsboro 9-1 - lost to Glassboro
9. Egg Harbor Twp. 6-4 - lost to Atlantic City, Ocean City, Cherokee and Mainland,
10. Eastern 7-3 - lost to Pennsauken, Cherokee and Mainland - loss to Pennsauken keeps them from being ranked #5
2008: Small School Rankings
These rankings are final (subject to some proof-reading).
I am having trouble posting comments in this section, but I do read them and absorb them.
I am not listing the computer rankings as I think that their bogusness has been well proven. I may get back to them later in the season.
Explanations of rankings are in the weekly reports above and below.
I question whether some of the non-public teams should even be a part of these rankings, but I will follow the CP's lead and if their enrollment is less than the largest Group 2 in the state, I will include them. CP rankings are for 11/29
I am having trouble posting comments in this section, but I do read them and absorb them.
I am not listing the computer rankings as I think that their bogusness has been well proven. I may get back to them later in the season.
Explanations of rankings are in the weekly reports above and below.
I question whether some of the non-public teams should even be a part of these rankings, but I will follow the CP's lead and if their enrollment is less than the largest Group 2 in the state, I will include them. CP rankings are for 11/29
Few adjustments this week!!!! I made made some adjsutments based on the Finals and another just based on further thought.
1. Glassboro (12-0) CP #1
last year #2
2. Paulsboro (10-1) CP #3
last year #5
3. Gloucester Catholic (9-2) CP #5
last year #6
4. Camden Catholic (9-2) CP #2
last year #4
5. Delsea (8-3) CP #6
last year - not ranked
6. West Deptford (9-2) CP #4
last year #7
7. Holy Cross (7-3) CP not ranked - perhaps I have them too high as they lost to two teams way below, but they won their group!
last year #3
8. Holy Spirit (7-3) CP #10
last year #1
9. Buena (7-4) CP not ranked
last year #27
10. Haddonfield (8-3) CP #7 - beat HH and Woodbury 56-26 for a margin of 30
last year #25
11. Penns Grove (9-3) CP not ranked - beat HH and Woodbury 42-21 for a margin of 21
last year #15
12. Gloucester (6-4) - lost to PG by 1
last year #18
13. Woodbury (7-3) - lost to PG by 7
last year #12
14. St. Joe’s (5-5) - I moved them down because I just felt that I had them too high with 5 losses.
last year #9
15. Haddon Heights (5-6) - did a number on Palmyra; it is not like it was a fluke - HH was clearly the better team
last year #23
16. Palmyra (9-1) CP #10 - tough place to put them, but I have to put them below HH
last year #16
17. Delran (8-3) CP #8 - back below Palmyra
last year #13
18. Bridgeton (5-5)
last year #11
19. Bishop Eustace (5-6)
last year #28
20. Florence (6-4)
last year #8
21. Pennsville (6-4)
last year #20
22. Burlington Twp. (5-5)
last year #14
23. Haddon Twp. (5-5)
last year #24
24. Audubon (4-6)
last year #21
25. Gateway (4-6)
last year #39
26. New Egypt (5-5)
last year #22
27. Camden (4-6)
last year – not ranked
28. Woodrow Wilson (4-6)
last year – not ranked
29. Maple Shade (5-5)
last year #32
30. Collingswood (4-6)
last year #33
31. Sterling (3-7)
last year #30
32. Schalick (4-6)
last year #17
33. Willingboro (3-7)
last year #37
34. Cinnaminson (3-7)
last year #26
35. Riverside (4-6)
last year #42
36. Pemberton (3-7)
last year – not ranked
37. Overbrook (2-8)
last year #36
38. Lindenwold (2-8)
last year #19
39. Middle Twp. (3-7)
last year #34
40. Woodstown (3-7)
last year #31
41. Pitman (2-8)
last year #44
42. Salem (2-8)
last year #40
43. Pleasantville (1-9)
last year #36
44. Bordentown (1-9)
last year #38
45. Burlington City (1-9)
last year #41
46. Lower Cape May (0-10)
last year - not ranked
47. Clayton (1-8)
last year #43
48. Wildwood (1-7)
last year #45
2008: Group 1 Rankings
These rankings are final.
I am not listing the computer rankings as I think that their bogusness has been well proven. I may add them later if I have time.
Explanations of rankings are in the weekly reports above and below.
Not much to change this week!!!!
1. Glassboro (12-0) – Classic Division and Group 1 South Champions
last year #1
2. Paulsboro (10-1)
last year #2
3. Penns Grove (9-3)
last year #5
4. Gloucester (6-4)
last year #8
5. Woodbury (7-3)
last year #4
6. Haddon Heights (5-6)
last year #13
7. Palmyra (9-1)
last year #6
8. Florence (6-4)
last year #3
9. Pennsville (6-4)
last year #10
10. Haddon Twp. (5-5)
last year #14
11. Audubon (4-6)
last year #10
12. Gateway (4-6)
last year #18
13. New Egypt (5-5)
last year #12
14. Maple Shade (5-5)
last year #
15. Schalick (4-6)
last year #7
16. Riverside (4-6)
last year #21
17. Lindenwold (2-8)
last year #9
18. Woodstown (3-7)
last year #15
19. Pitman (2-8)
last year #23
20. Salem (2-8)
last year #19
21. Bordentown (1-9)
last year #17
22. Burlington City (1-9)
last year #20
23. Clayton (1-8)
last year #22
24. Wildwood (1-7)
last year #24
I am not listing the computer rankings as I think that their bogusness has been well proven. I may add them later if I have time.
Explanations of rankings are in the weekly reports above and below.
Not much to change this week!!!!
1. Glassboro (12-0) – Classic Division and Group 1 South Champions
last year #1
2. Paulsboro (10-1)
last year #2
3. Penns Grove (9-3)
last year #5
4. Gloucester (6-4)
last year #8
5. Woodbury (7-3)
last year #4
6. Haddon Heights (5-6)
last year #13
7. Palmyra (9-1)
last year #6
8. Florence (6-4)
last year #3
9. Pennsville (6-4)
last year #10
10. Haddon Twp. (5-5)
last year #14
11. Audubon (4-6)
last year #10
12. Gateway (4-6)
last year #18
13. New Egypt (5-5)
last year #12
14. Maple Shade (5-5)
last year #
15. Schalick (4-6)
last year #7
16. Riverside (4-6)
last year #21
17. Lindenwold (2-8)
last year #9
18. Woodstown (3-7)
last year #15
19. Pitman (2-8)
last year #23
20. Salem (2-8)
last year #19
21. Bordentown (1-9)
last year #17
22. Burlington City (1-9)
last year #20
23. Clayton (1-8)
last year #22
24. Wildwood (1-7)
last year #24
2008: Gloucester County Rankings
These rankings are final.
I am not listing the computer rankings as I think that their bogusness has been well proven. I may get back to them later in the season.
Explanations of rankings are in the weekly reports above and below.
1. Glassboro (12-0) – defending Classic Division and Group1 South Champions -
last year #1
2. Washington Twp (7-3)
last year #2
3. Williamstown (9-1)
last year #3
4. Paulsboro (9-1) last year #4
5. Delsea (8-3)
last year #6
6. West Deptford (9-2)
last year #5
7. Clearview (6-4)
last year #7
8. Woodbury (7-3)
last year #8
9. Kingsway (3-7)
last year #9
10. Gateway (4-6)
last year #11
11. Deptford (1-8)
last year #10
12. Pitman (2-8) - based on overall better season than Clayton
last year #13
13. Clayton (1-8)
last year #12
I am not listing the computer rankings as I think that their bogusness has been well proven. I may get back to them later in the season.
Explanations of rankings are in the weekly reports above and below.
1. Glassboro (12-0) – defending Classic Division and Group1 South Champions -
last year #1
2. Washington Twp (7-3)
last year #2
3. Williamstown (9-1)
last year #3
4. Paulsboro (9-1) last year #4
5. Delsea (8-3)
last year #6
6. West Deptford (9-2)
last year #5
7. Clearview (6-4)
last year #7
8. Woodbury (7-3)
last year #8
9. Kingsway (3-7)
last year #9
10. Gateway (4-6)
last year #11
11. Deptford (1-8)
last year #10
12. Pitman (2-8) - based on overall better season than Clayton
last year #13
13. Clayton (1-8)
last year #12
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