Small school rankings (CP style - I follow their debabtable format in choosing teams to rank): a lot of guessing in inserting the Group 2’s with the 1’s.
This is my toughest list to figure out especially in the middle. Input is appreciated.
I have seen 8 of the top 10, 5 of the second 10, 5 0f the third 10, 3 of the fourth 10. Teams I have seen are in blue. Basically I have seen 52.5% of this list.
If you disagree, try it yourself!
1. St. Joe’s: 11-0 CP #1 Born Index #1 - No doubt about it!
2. West Deptford: 11-1 CP #3 Born Index #2
3. Florence: 11-1 CP #2 Born Index #5
4. Paulsboro: 10-2 CP #4 Born Index #3
5. Schalick: 9-1 CP#7 Born Index #8
6. Deptford: 8-2 CP#5 Born index #4
7. Bishop Eustace: 8-3 CP#6 Born Index #6 - perhaps a broken foot brings them down a notch
8.Haddonfield: 7-4 CP#9 Born Index #7 - tough not to put them ahead of Deptford, but big loss (shutout) to Woodbury and a loss to Collingswood hurts their ranking. Too many losses keeps them down. The "they beat Deptford on-the-field" argument would also mean that I put Woodbury ahead of them (with the same number of losses) and then put Gateway (with the same number of losses) ahead of Woodbury, plus I would have to place 4 loss Penns Grove above Schalick and Pennsville above them, thus that argument wouldn't place them much differently or perhaps lower. As it is, I have ranked Haddonfield as the highest 4 loss team and as the highest 7 win team. They are the only team in those categories to beat any higher ranked teams (2) (although they have also lost to 2 lower ranked teams). Those who debate their ranking are short-sighted and don't see all of the implications of their argument. They just want to see their team ranked higher and don't want the same argument applied to others.
9. Glassboro: 9-3 CP#8 Born Index #9 - They go down 2 slots after the Finals
10. Delran 6-4 Born Index #10
11. Burlington City 7-3 Born Index #16 - best Group 1 or 2 team not in playoffs!
12. Bridgeton: 7-4 Born Index #12
13. Lower Cape May 7-3 Born Index #17
14. Gateway 6-4 Born Index #14
15. Pennsville 6-4 Born Index #30
16. Penns Grove 7-4 Born Index #20
17. Woodbury: 7-4 CP#10 Born Index #15
18. Lindenwold: 5-5 Born Index #24
19. Buena 5-5 Born Index #13
20. Gloucester Catholic 4-6 Born Index #18
21. Maple Shade 6-4 (one win is a forfeit) Born Index #26
22. Woodstown 5-5 Born Index #27
23. Gloucester: 4-6 Born Index #23
24. Salem 3-7 Born Index #22
25. Palmyra 4-6 Born Index #36
26. New Egypt 4-6 (one forfeit loss) Born Index #33 - forfeit hurts their ranking
27. Collingswood 4-6 Born Index #19
28. Burlington Twp. 2-8 Born Index #11 - better than their record with 2 forfeits
29. Pleasantville 3-7 Born Index #25
30. Sterling: 3-7 Born Index #28
31. Audubon 2-8 Born index #21
32. Woodrow Wilson 0-9 Born Index #32 – I still have no clue where to put them, but they could have had a consolation win if the NJSIAA had done a better job!
33. Overbrook 1-9 Born Index #34
34. Haddon Twp. 2-8 Born Index #29
35. Haddon Heights 2-8 Born Index #31
36. Cinnaminson 2-8 Born Index #35
37. Riverside 2-8 Born Index #37
38. Pitman 1-9 Born index #38
39. Bordentown 1-9 Born index #39
40. Clayton 0-10 Born index #40
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I know you are a Trico Classic fan, but you are giving too much credence to Schalick and Penns Grove. Schalick lost last week to PG, they should not be ranked that high. Woodbury lost to a very good Paulsboro, they are better than PG and Barnegat. The score (not the result) of the game is as much a enomily as the Woodbury-Haddonfield score.
Speaking Haddonfield, they should be above Deptford, they beat them last week. They also beat Paulsboro and played WD very well twice. If WD beats Paulsboro and Manasquan, will that earn them a #1? The colonial has been a tougher small school league than Trico, Olympic(Small schools), and Cape this year.
I am a Haddonfield fan so this will question how you can place them below Deptford. The too many losses claim doesn't work. How many playoff teams had Deptford beaten? 1 after yesterday. Haddonfield beat three, Paulsboro, Lindenwold, & Deptford. Yes the Collingswood loss was a bad one. Their other losses were to playoff teams. Woodbury was lopsided, but that was when they were playing well, actually their last good game. Haddonfield lost to WD 2X by a total of 17 points and could have won either game. While being somewhat up and down, their body of work was greater than Deptford's. The extra point is the head to head result!
You are looking at my tentative rankings and I will consider your thoughts before making my final rankings. You make some valid points.
You say we should try ranking them so here you go.
This is predicated on WD beating or keeping it close with Squan(less than 2 scores).
1. West Deptford-Played some quality competition this year and won, close but won anyway.(If they lose big they fall to #2, Key: they beat Paulsboro recently)
2. St Joe's-Good, but I don't think as good as everyone thinks.
3. Paulsboro-Should win Grp1. Tough loss early in the year helped them.
4. Florence-Good, but would not fair as well in the SJ Grp 1.
This is where it gets more hairy:
5. Bishop Eustace-Good team or are they? They lost last two, also makes you question how good St Joe's really is?
6. Haddonfield-Inconsistent. Early losses hurt. Lost to WD twice in close games. Recent playoff win over Deptford puts them ahead.
7. Deptford-Two tough losses to playoff teams. Quality recent win over Glassboro.
8. Glassboro-Early season loss to Schalick not as bad as recent Thanksgiving loss to Deptford. Win Grp1 and that would shake things up considerably.
9. Delran-Many losses, but to good teams. Only allowed 28 to Squan in playoffs. That's mettle!
10. Schalick-Undefeated during the regular season for a first round exit is a shame. Then to escape Cumberland 6-0 in 2OTs is inexcusable.
You did a great job with a tough task even though I disagreed with some of your rankings. See you next year.
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